The podcast that takes a critical look at the craft of making games. Developers Allen Pike and Nigel Brooke dig in to a new topic each episode with an interesting guest.

Up Up Down Down is currently on hiatus, but you can check out the game we made, Two Spies, or Allen's other show Fun Fact.

22. Games Are Things Made By People

Adam “Atomic” Saltsman joins us to discuss collaboration and sustanability in the world of indie games.

We talk about Adam’s new venture Finji Games, and collaborating with fans, from early access to Earliest Access. We fondly remember Canabalt, remember that critical hits aren’t always commercial hits, and discuss how contracting fills the gaps between projects. We finish by discussing the intense competitive pressure in the indie market, and the daunting task of building a 3D game.

Download (1:09:41) • Jul 18, 2014